Graham Stringer (left): "Lord Snow once said: "You can't consider yourself educated if you don't know the second law of thermodynamics. Do you?"

Dr James Richardson (right) the Treasury's scientific advisor): "I do know the second law of thermodynamics.
I believe it was John Stuart Mill who was considered to be the last person on earth who knew everything. Since then, we can all be excused for not knowing everything.

"I was always taught that the laws of thermodynamics came down to, you can't win, you can't break even and you can't get out of the game.

Chair (Andrew Miller (left) "It sounds like dealing with the Treasury to me."